Fly Fishing New England

General Category => Fly Tying/Rod Building/Leader making => Topic started by: fishtaco on December 31, 2017, 05:51:02 PM

Title: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: fishtaco on December 31, 2017, 05:51:02 PM
Let's see some of your attempts at tying something different to fool fish. Post your turds and successes if you have any. Even if the ideas are not completely original and build off of established patterns they would be cool to see.

I found these after talking to another board member about spoons, they have to be 18+ years old. When I first started fly fishing I wanted something like a Kastmaster for stripers and blues.  I had no idea spoon flies existed so I came up with this. This spoon is "tied" with plastic cut from tupperware, prizmatic tape, and stainless wire. I also tied optional stinger hooks.

While casting,  these things spun like a slot machine and sounded like a hummingbird going by my head. When they were retrieved too fast they spun even more. Schoolies and cocktail blues didn't care, they crushed them. (they would probably crush a screwdriver if I threw one though) A small swivel helped but didn't remedy the spinning.

Out of 20-25 I made in different colors these are the only surviving specimens i found.

 
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Matt B on December 31, 2017, 09:06:26 PM
I tied a 6/0 EP crab like critter with magnum bunny strips, and literally like half a package of EP fiber.  Rubber legs, and XL tungsten eyes...

You know those bags you get at the pet store that the goldfish goes home in?  It was like casting that, with a couple wet socks dragging off the ass end.  Fun while it lasted...got bit off by a rat pickerel.  Probably drowned itself after the release.

For whats its worth...about a size 1 B10S EP crab in olive with an olive bunny tail, is a bass slayer!

Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Shakeyfly on January 01, 2018, 09:59:34 PM
 My attempt at a weedless frog pattern several years ago.
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: fishtaco on January 02, 2018, 06:43:42 PM
Matt, I have tied some offerings that were better suited for mopping floors too. Trying to cast something the size of a chinchilla made me look worse than usual.

Ryan, did you ever fish that frog?
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Shakeyfly on January 03, 2018, 08:19:30 AM
Matt, I have tied some offerings that were better suited for mopping floors too. Trying to cast something the size of a chinchilla made me look worse than usual.

Ryan, did you ever fish that frog?

Yes, I actually caught one small fish in about 3 feet of water near some reeds. I eventually lost it when I got ballsy and chucked it into the reeds and it caught on a log.

I missed a couple of blow ups, which was expected but it did pretty well weedless.
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Shakeyfly on January 03, 2018, 08:20:46 AM
If I were to retie it, I would hike the hook in a slit in the foam. to hopefully make a wider hook gap when bitten.
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Matt B on January 05, 2018, 02:37:29 PM
I always loved that frog!

I did something a while back (4 years ago :( )

The thing just worked awesome...never tied another one though and honestly don
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: fishtaco on January 06, 2018, 10:24:41 AM
I made these trying to make Menemsha minnows and Surf Candies easier and more consistent. Tie on a tail, slip a piece of tygon tubing, add prismatic tape (or not), and coat with epoxy. The bigger blue one also had a bass rattle stuffed inside. These came out of an ancient box too. I don't think I have see epoxy this yellow before.

The thinner ones caught plenty of albies back when I used them.

Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Shakeyfly on January 06, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
If you reversed the top,  you would've had diving little wiggle minnows
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: fishtaco on January 06, 2018, 04:12:46 PM
If you reversed the top,  you would've had diving little wiggle minnows

Did that. They didn't wiggle or dive. Was going to revisit that design but never got around to it.
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Matt B on January 06, 2018, 08:07:55 PM
Never had success with wiggling bugs...just death rolling fluff lol
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Shakeyfly on January 08, 2018, 09:24:12 AM
If you reversed the top,  you would've had diving little wiggle minnows

Did that. They didn't wiggle or dive. Was going to revisit that design but never got around to it.

I tied a Wiggle minnow using a cylinder piece of foam, and I really like having them around for largemouth. I found though, that weighting it so the minnow starts at just below the surface was best, but getting the angle right on the foam was damn tricky. Plus the retrieve had to be just right to keep it wiggling versus a tippet death spiral.
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: fishtaco on January 17, 2018, 11:06:12 PM
Also from the same old box. I cut a ton of the tails out of thick nitrile gloves. The nitrile has lasts for years and retains it's strength. I have since seen a lot of variations of these flies and have seen the tails being sold. Interesting you can have a light bulb go off, lash shit onto a hook, and it's probably been tried before. Fluke loved these things.
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: jeffsod on January 18, 2018, 06:25:36 AM

Cool tail what is the body epoxy and glitter? Any added weight besides the eyes?
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: fishtaco on January 18, 2018, 09:17:04 PM
Jeff,

The body is metallic needlepoint yarn from Plastic Canvas covered with epoxy, I use it as an underbody for a few flies I tie. If you cover the shank with a colored thread before you wrap and epoxy the body, you get a nice translucent body with a hint of the thread color coming through. That material can be a pain in the ass to find for some reason. Other than the eyes there is no additional weight.
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: jeffsod on January 19, 2018, 06:33:56 AM

Got it. Nice effect. I could see why Fluke like the fly.
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: fishtaco on February 05, 2018, 10:46:20 PM
The fighting crab. I tied these years ago after my first and only encounter with a permit on the flats. The idea was, the wire V near the hook eye would act like a pivot point when stripped causing the claws and body to rear up like a defensive crab. It kind of worked on the harder sand flats but I needed to use a intermediate line and let it sink to the bottom so the line pull would be from a low angle. I caught a small snapper in the keys and one tiny striper in the wash up here. The more coarse sand up here prevented it from taking a fighting stance. I still have visions of throwing one of these at a permit.

Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Shakeyfly on February 06, 2018, 08:39:03 AM
That's creative. I like the idea of the fighting stance crab. I've seen some crazy videos lately of bass that wouldn't each crayfish in the fighting stance.

maybe heavier lead eyes would've help the wires dig in a bit?
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: fishtaco on February 10, 2018, 10:44:51 PM
Once upon a time I caught an albie in the black of night. I have also caught albies in the dark, just before first light. I consider the night time catch a freak occurrence. The morning catches, while not super common, have happened more often. I always wondered if a glow fly could take more albies in low or no light conditions.

These were my first attempts. I under did it on the tail glow and over dosed the heads. They certainly will be seen down there though.

 
Title: Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
Post by: Shakeyfly on February 11, 2018, 08:26:43 PM
Just have to charge them with a uv flashlight first