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Blue Line Research
« on: December 02, 2014, 10:23:13 AM »

I'm reposting this for Jeffsod. This is just incredible information that he provided to me. I'm not sure if this should be pinned or not. but I will let Jeff tell me if thinks this should be taken down or not.


This may seem a little weird but I was doing some local research on same and found a cool map put together by the UMass Extension. I can't find the originating site but each individual town seems to have a pdf file online using this format just google it replacing the X's adding your specific town of interest to the front of the file search name-

     XXXXXXXX_High_Quality_Streams

Once you find the map for a town of interest you can ignore any streams you thought you might look at that are colored yellow on the pdf.

This site also has some very good info-

http://www.streamcontinuity.org/


This database has reports on many little brooks and if the inspector found evidence of fish it is noted. Depth at the culverts is a good indicator too. Just drill down the database by entering state and town of interest to start. Once you have the list you can click on the streamcode link for the report. Some have a couple of photos of the culvert.

http://www.streamcontinuity.org/cdb2/search_crossings.cfm

Oh and then there is this for MA (just look for the blue lines)-

http://170.63.70.137/eea/agencies/dfg/dfw/wildlife-habitat-conservation/coldwater-fish-resources-map.html
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2014, 01:22:41 PM »

Very cool!
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2014, 01:23:35 PM »

Checked out a possible stream on the way home tonight. Posted signs all around it. :( onto the next.
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2014, 02:31:08 PM »

Matt (troutdoors) and I actually worked on the MA stream continuity project with the TU Squannatissit Chapter for the UMASS Continuity Study 3 years ago. We documented all the culverts on the Unkety and some of its tribs in Dunstable, Pepperell and Groton. We did see some brookies in there at the time, but what's depressing is none of our data found its way to the database. I'll have to follow-up with TU to find out what happened.
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2014, 06:46:28 PM »

Very, very cool!!!!

Thanks for passing this info along.
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2014, 08:45:13 PM »

Checked out a possible stream on the way home tonight. Posted signs all around it. :( onto the next.
That's more of a suggestion... I'll test it out if you wish.
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2014, 10:57:24 AM »

So I ended up emailing a person I found on my towns website, he ended up telling me they stock the fish on the few brooks and streams in my town, and said where it is stocked is where I have access. So I got a couple of great leads. Doing a little google map, there is no parking lot or sign of more than 1 - 2 parking spaces. He did say that several people have a grasp on the stocking here, so whether there is still fish in there or not, he doesn't know. but it sounds like a good enough lead to follow up on.
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2014, 09:52:17 PM »

 Don't completely disregard the yellow lines in the 2nd link. I have explored several of them and one of them is full of native brookies.   Most were not though.
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2014, 07:34:57 AM »


Eric if that body you referenced is in MA check it against the MA fisheries link to see if it is designated as a cold water fishery. If not then that would be unusual unless it is being stocked annually by the state.
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2014, 10:38:23 PM »

It is a cold water fishery on the mass site!  Good call ! 
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2015, 03:02:00 PM »

Hi folks.  I'm a new member, and really enjoying the talent and knowledge on here thus far.

Blue lines are awesome.  One good link, that shares a lot with what's been noted is this one from the Squanatissit TU chapter: http://www.squanatissit.org/our_rivers.php

I've found that the yellow lines on the linked PDF's are definitely not to be excluded.  One of those actually is one of my favorite wild trout streams which some how is home to brookies (that makes some sense) and browns - it's never been stocked (I checked with DFW friends) and it flow's into the Nashua in the Lancaster, Leominster, Fitchburg area, mostly through private land (no, not the brook TU has worked on a ton in that region which also flow's into the Nashua)... So how the browns made it home?  Beats me... though I admit to having an imagination amok with giant butter sides finning the soap scum lined Nashua :) alongside carp, perch, sunfish, suckers and such... :)

Point being, investigate yellow lines... they can surprise you...

Will
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2015, 04:04:11 PM »

Welcome, Will!
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2015, 05:30:12 PM »

Good points Will, thanks for posting. Welcome to the board!
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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2015, 10:27:31 AM »

Hi folks.  I'm a new member, and really enjoying the talent and knowledge on here thus far.

Blue lines are awesome.  One good link, that shares a lot with what's been noted is this one from the Squanatissit TU chapter: http://www.squanatissit.org/our_rivers.php

I've found that the yellow lines on the linked PDF's are definitely not to be excluded.  One of those actually is one of my favorite wild trout streams which some how is home to brookies (that makes some sense) and browns - it's never been stocked (I checked with DFW friends) and it flow's into the Nashua in the Lancaster, Leominster, Fitchburg area, mostly through private land (no, not the brook TU has worked on a ton in that region which also flow's into the Nashua)... So how the browns made it home?  Beats me... though I admit to having an imagination amok with giant butter sides finning the soap scum lined Nashua :) alongside carp, perch, sunfish, suckers and such... :)

Point being, investigate yellow lines... they can surprise you...

Will

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Re: Blue Line Research
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2015, 11:59:28 AM »

Thanks guys!  I appreciate the welcome!
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