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« on: December 31, 2017, 05:51:02 PM »

Let's see some of your attempts at tying something different to fool fish. Post your turds and successes if you have any. Even if the ideas are not completely original and build off of established patterns they would be cool to see.

I found these after talking to another board member about spoons, they have to be 18+ years old. When I first started fly fishing I wanted something like a Kastmaster for stripers and blues.  I had no idea spoon flies existed so I came up with this. This spoon is "tied" with plastic cut from tupperware, prizmatic tape, and stainless wire. I also tied optional stinger hooks.

While casting,  these things spun like a slot machine and sounded like a hummingbird going by my head. When they were retrieved too fast they spun even more. Schoolies and cocktail blues didn't care, they crushed them. (they would probably crush a screwdriver if I threw one though) A small swivel helped but didn't remedy the spinning.

Out of 20-25 I made in different colors these are the only surviving specimens i found.

 
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2017, 09:06:26 PM »

I tied a 6/0 EP crab like critter with magnum bunny strips, and literally like half a package of EP fiber.  Rubber legs, and XL tungsten eyes...

You know those bags you get at the pet store that the goldfish goes home in?  It was like casting that, with a couple wet socks dragging off the ass end.  Fun while it lasted...got bit off by a rat pickerel.  Probably drowned itself after the release.

For whats its worth...about a size 1 B10S EP crab in olive with an olive bunny tail, is a bass slayer!

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Re: innovation, experimentation, adaptation, screwing around.
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2018, 09:59:34 PM »

 My attempt at a weedless frog pattern several years ago.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2018, 06:43:42 PM »

Matt, I have tied some offerings that were better suited for mopping floors too. Trying to cast something the size of a chinchilla made me look worse than usual.

Ryan, did you ever fish that frog?
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 08:19:30 AM »

Matt, I have tied some offerings that were better suited for mopping floors too. Trying to cast something the size of a chinchilla made me look worse than usual.

Ryan, did you ever fish that frog?

Yes, I actually caught one small fish in about 3 feet of water near some reeds. I eventually lost it when I got ballsy and chucked it into the reeds and it caught on a log.

I missed a couple of blow ups, which was expected but it did pretty well weedless.
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2018, 08:20:46 AM »

If I were to retie it, I would hike the hook in a slit in the foam. to hopefully make a wider hook gap when bitten.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 02:37:29 PM »

I always loved that frog!

I did something a while back (4 years ago :( )

The thing just worked awesome...never tied another one though and honestly don
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2018, 10:24:41 AM »

I made these trying to make Menemsha minnows and Surf Candies easier and more consistent. Tie on a tail, slip a piece of tygon tubing, add prismatic tape (or not), and coat with epoxy. The bigger blue one also had a bass rattle stuffed inside. These came out of an ancient box too. I don't think I have see epoxy this yellow before.

The thinner ones caught plenty of albies back when I used them.

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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2018, 02:57:43 PM »

If you reversed the top,  you would've had diving little wiggle minnows
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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2018, 04:12:46 PM »

If you reversed the top,  you would've had diving little wiggle minnows

Did that. They didn't wiggle or dive. Was going to revisit that design but never got around to it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2018, 08:07:55 PM »

Never had success with wiggling bugs...just death rolling fluff lol
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 09:24:12 AM »

If you reversed the top,  you would've had diving little wiggle minnows

Did that. They didn't wiggle or dive. Was going to revisit that design but never got around to it.

I tied a Wiggle minnow using a cylinder piece of foam, and I really like having them around for largemouth. I found though, that weighting it so the minnow starts at just below the surface was best, but getting the angle right on the foam was damn tricky. Plus the retrieve had to be just right to keep it wiggling versus a tippet death spiral.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2018, 11:06:12 PM »

Also from the same old box. I cut a ton of the tails out of thick nitrile gloves. The nitrile has lasts for years and retains it's strength. I have since seen a lot of variations of these flies and have seen the tails being sold. Interesting you can have a light bulb go off, lash shit onto a hook, and it's probably been tried before. Fluke loved these things.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2018, 06:25:36 AM »


Cool tail what is the body epoxy and glitter? Any added weight besides the eyes?
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2018, 09:17:04 PM »

Jeff,

The body is metallic needlepoint yarn from Plastic Canvas covered with epoxy, I use it as an underbody for a few flies I tie. If you cover the shank with a colored thread before you wrap and epoxy the body, you get a nice translucent body with a hint of the thread color coming through. That material can be a pain in the ass to find for some reason. Other than the eyes there is no additional weight.
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